What's the difference between a 3 speed stik shift and a 5 speed

[typhoonstingrayfastback]

I was wondering if you are able to use a 5 speed stik shifter with a 3 speed hub because I can never find 3 speed stik shifts on ebay

[Geezer]

I don't think it's a workable combination.  The 3 speed Stik Shift is designed to work with a 3 speed hub's internal gears.  The 5 speed Stick Shift is designed to operate a derailleur through 5 external gears.  You might be able to rig it to work. but I think the result would be unsatisfactory.  Be patient and keep looking.  Eventually the right parts will become available, 

[Derek]

I think they come up occasionally, look at completed listings. There was actually a NOS one in the last couple months.
Actually  know of a 3 speed bike I was going to pick up for parts or build and could be an option if you don't find one. Problem is I've bought 3 bikes now for parts and parting out and ended up building them.

[rickpaulos]

The 3 speed shifters have detents at preset locations.  The detents insure you get the exact amount of cable pull between gears to meet the hub manufacturer's specs.

The 5 speeds don't have detents, just a friction movement from limit to limit.  You can use a friction shifter for a 3 speed hub but the results will be very unsatisfactory. You will have to 'hunt' for just the right spot for second gear. Off a little and the hub can go in to neutral on you or jump between 1st & 2nd.  Another problem is you get so much leverage with that big shifter, you could easily rip the indicator rod out of the hub or tear the little chain off the end of the rod or just rip the cable apart.  Using a friction shifter is a 'get me back to town and not in high gear all the way' emergency repair.

A SA trigger handlebar mount shifter will work but won't match the oem stick shifter look. That could be a cheap  and very workable alternative until you find the correct lever.

Rick

[Wayne]

I'm looking for one on the cheap

Unless it's real rusty, you won't find one on the "cheap". As stated you must use the 3sp shifter for the Sturmey hub.



Here is one ending soon, not my auction.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Schwinn-Stik-Shift-3-Speed-Vintage-/111830573224?hash=item1a099f20a8:g:NJQAAOSwf-VWUdcD

[typhoonstingrayfastback]

I'm trying to put a 3 speed coster in a single speed

[Wayne]

Make sure to use a Sturmey Archer AWC model coaster hub. The earlier models had some issues. The Schwinn Stik Shifter will operate it perfectly. They actually work better than the Sturmey stick shift.

Maybe, as stated, put the bike together with a trigger shifter until you get the Schwinn Stik.

[typhoonstingrayfastback]

I'm going to but all the 3 speed stuff before installing it

[typhoonstingrayfastback]

This is the bike a 77 deluxe stingray

[Wayne]

That bike will be great with a 3sp coaster. I’ve completed several conversions myself. The Sturmey hub is slightly wider than the stock 1sp coaster. Most likely you will need to spread the rear drop outs.

Not too hard to do. Remove the stock wheel, the fender, chain guard, at least one pedal, the seat and strut. Removing the extra parts keeps them from any damage when you spread the drop outs. Lay the frame on its side on a pad or the carpet. Place a small 2X4 on one drop out; lay your pry bar on it. Place another 2X4 on top of the pry bar. Gently pry the two 2X4s apart. Keep checking the fit of the Sturmey hub.
             (For those of us without a bike stand)

The Sturmey hub is a wide ratio. The stock gearing on your bike, made for a kid, is probably 46 tooth drive gear and a 20 tooth hub gear. I would recommend a 16 tooth hub gear for road travel. If you have strong legs and want to go fast, use a 15 tooth hub gear.  If you want to use it as a mountain bike, keep the 20 tooth. With a smaller gear you’ll need to shorten the chain a couple links.

Don’t forget, the Sturmey hub must have anti-rotation washers. Some diagrams may show them on the inside of the drop outs, but they’ll work just fine on the outside of the drop outs also.

[typhoonstingrayfastback]

Will a s3c hub work with a stik shift?

[Wayne]

Yes it will shift it fine.

The S3C hub is an older model coaster hub. Quote about the S3C:

S3C
3   Wide   133.3
100
75   Coaster brake. After Consumer Reports rated the TCW IV "unacceptable" because the brake would fail completely if the shift cable was misadjusted, Sturmey-Archer completely redesigned the Tricoaster, so that the braking was independent of the gear-change. This model is safer than the TCW series, but is still prone to failure. Also see rebuilding instructions in Sutherland's Handbook of Coaster Brake and Internally Geared Hubs.

[Wayne]

The AWC, or AWC II are the best choices. I would use a Sturmey AW hub without a coaster brake before I used a TCW or S3C hub. Then add the adapter on the rear fender mount for a caliper brake.

[Wayne]

Here is another 3 speed stik on e-bay, 6 days left. Did you find a shifter yet?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/161923768311?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

[typhoonstingrayfastback]

Is there any other places I could find a 3 speed stik shift other than ebay beause im having a hard time trying to find one